This could be great news for projects like PodBible.mobi (making the PodBible audio Bible podcasts available to mobile phone users).
However, I have two questions you might be able to answer for me:
- What mobile phones can or can't play AMR files? So if you have a phone can you try downloading this AMR file and seeing if it plays, and report the make, model and result below, please!
- What exactly are the licensing issues with AMR there is a link on the Wikipedia site to an VoiceAge legal page, but I go cross-eyed trying to find out what that means for ordinary non-commercial users. Any comments on that would be helpful too!
Labels: audio, bible, mobile, podcast
¶ 8:06 AM
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Gsm format is worth a look. I think most mobiles support it and it could be converted on the fly on the server by using sox (providing your host has it installed).
What you need is an application that offers the user different file formats which are generated on the fly by the server, taking all the hard work away from conversion.
I imagine this is fairly straight forward, unfortunately I don't have the technical ability.
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Graham Doel, at
June 15, 2008 7:06 PM
I am a total beginner when it comes to audio formats for mobiles, as best as I can make out from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Multi-Rate
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_file
It sounds to me as if maybe AMR is a form of GSM??? For this project we do not really have any one who can easily organise clever file format conversion on the fly, so we are likely to have to do the conversions manually or using batch files, so I'm keen to get the "right" format when we start.
With AMR I can even use a the lowest quality setting, and get something that sounds better than a phone call where the chapter is only 160KB which would be a tiny download for 3.5 minutes of audio!
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Tim, at
June 15, 2008 7:34 PM
Now he's trying to convince us that this format could be a good way to spread the Bible.He convinced me to spend a while playing with 3GP, if I cut the frame rate to slideshow proportions (just 1fps) and keep the audio low (but not too low) I can fit a whole short Psalm with pictures into less than 400KB. Judge for yourselves if it is worth it (just remember I spent more effort on the technical side than choosing photos - so there are lots of cute kids ;-)
Here is the 3gp version of Psalm 67 at only 368KB, and the WMV Psalm 67 at 1.97MB with much better picture quality to demonstrate what you lose in making it quite that small for a phone. (and a Flash version of Psalm 67 for Maccies at "only" 2.57MB!)
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¶ 2:27 PM
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Bravo Tim - your are a mobile wizard !!!
By Bob MacDonald, at
May 2, 2008 4:20 PM
Really cool. Welcome to the 21st century.
By David Ker, at
May 6, 2008 8:52 PM
BTW Ker not Kerr.
By David Ker, at
May 6, 2008 8:54 PM
Aaagh, I must NOT rely on my memory, especially not for names!
By Tim, at
May 7, 2008 6:29 AM
She was asked:
Can you tease out an example of how publishing will change?Wireless phones, which didn't exist 20 years ago, have changed not only the way people communicate but also the way they live. People are going to read, and they're going to read paper for the rest of our lifetimes. But I'm convinced that different distribution for content will change the way we live. We have entered the digital world. It's not like we're just stepping our toe into it. The Bible Experience audio Bible was the best-selling Bible of 2007.
I think we can make some predictions today for how further distribution changes will alter the way we live our Christian life. The spiritual journey many of us have will be changed by the Internet and digital technology. But I'd like a little more time in this discovery process before I can vocalize how.
Now, this is cautious, but much less cautious than print-based publishers usually are! It makes projects like David's for mobile phones or our PodBible relevance visible!
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What's next - future media ::
Christianity Today has an article “What’s Next: Publishing and Broadcasting”. (HT to Think Christian who posted snippets, and before that to Lingamish for noticing!)
Isn't it nice when the “mainstream media” deign to think about the future ;-)
Two items from the comments (on Think Christian) really struck me.
The first is daft, Donnell Duncan writes:
I have a website and I’m publishing a book soon. Even though it’s 2006, for at least another twenty years, I expect the influence of my book to extend just as far as my website.Well no Donnell, unless your “book” is a fiction bestseller like Harry Potter or the Da Vinci Code, it's likely that a website will have far more impact.
Suppose your print book sells 1,000 copies (which at least in Biblical Studies would be strong sales) and 250 of those are to libraries. Suppose, what's more, that on average individual owners loan the book to three other people over the next twenty years, that would make 3,000 readers. Again let's assume that each library copy is read 100 times before falling to bits – 25,000 readers. Wow, that's nearly 30,000 readers over the twenty years :)
Now let's compare my Amos commentary, about 900 different IP addresses “visit” the material each day. Of course most of those are Google visitors who do not find what they want and move on, though since somebody looks at over 8,000 pages per day some visitors are reading quite a bit. If we assume one print page of your book is equivalent to 4 web pages from Amos that would be 2,000 pages of your book each day, if the book is 250 pages long that's 8 cover-to-cover readers daily, or nearly 3,000 per year. So on a conservative estimate (and every year so far readership of the online material has grown) the web “book” is about twice as influential as the print one ;-)
Dusty Bogard by contrast is a future focused commentator. He quotes Jonathan Schwartz, CEO Sun Microsystems:
I was in a European airport a few weeks ago, waiting in a lounge with about 100 other people – when I had to revise my world view. Most people had mobile handsets – we all would’ve predicted that. But no one was talking on their phone. They were all looking at them, and either browsing or text’ing or playing a game – but no one was making a voice call… Which only strengthens my belief that most people in the world will first experience the internet on their handset. Which means most businesses in the world trying to reach those consumers or leverage the internet should broaden their horizons.Eeek, we need a .mobi domain and site optimised for WAP (and/or XHTML-MP - can anyone tell me which or how?) for the PodBible project, there's a whole bunch of potential listeners we have hardly started to supply. I'll register the domain, does anyone know someone who can turn an RSS podcast feed into a WAP or XHTML-MP site?
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¶ 6:11 AM
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Hey Tim,
I've been thinking about a WAP centred project for a while.
If you send me an email with exactly what you're looking for in a .mobi address I'd be happy to have a look into it (content, use, posting platform, etc).
Aparently large parts of Africa also mainly use (or are predicted to use) WAP technology to access the internet. I think it could further "free" the podbible.
By Craig (mars-hill), at
October 25, 2006 10:41 AM
Here's the deal. People will (and probably already do) want to listen to PodBible on their 'phones. Increasingly (as far as I can predict) they will use WAP etc. to download directly to the 'phone, instead of to the PC first and then move onto 'phone.
There is now a TLD targeted at 'phones. So I have registered PodBible.mobi We currently have RSS feeds (chapter-a-day and Bible-in-a-year) that are (by the wonders of PHP I assume) transmuted into webpages. What I need to do is to make those (and a brief description of the project (perhaps) available in 'phone friendly format. Which for .mobi means XHTML-MP. See http://pc.mtld.mobi/mobilenet/dotmobi_guides.html
This is not urgent, though as months pass it will become more urgent...
I know a little about XHTML, and can set Dreamweaver to insist on it, but I know as yet nothing about either the -MP version or PHP....
So, if you can help that would be great!
By Tim, at
October 25, 2006 11:33 AM
Tim,
Please keep me in the loop on this. I'm interested in making Scripture portions available in Africa by SMS. Maybe some of us could put together a wiki project on this (pbwiki.com) and see what we can gather.
Technology and resources for the average African tends to be limited so their phones are older and they can't afford long downloads, but SMS is very popular and cheap.
Kouya.net put me on to Phoney Bible (http://www.phoneybible.org/) which is making the Bible available in quite a few langauges as a Java app for mobiles.
Cheers!
By lingamish, at
October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
If no-one with more professional experience weighs in soon, I'd be happy to give it a good attempt over the next few months. Let me know.
By Craig (mars-hill), at
October 26, 2006 2:39 AM
Lingamish, for offering an SMS based service you might look at The Australian Bible Society's SMS Bible, you would need to adapt the "translation" but an open source approach would work for that!
By Tim, at
October 26, 2006 6:19 AM
Tim,
I'm familiar with ABS's SMS Bible but I was disappointed to discover it is PC-based. If someone would host it and folks could SMS scripture directly from their phone or request a Scripture I'd be happy.
